Thursday, August 10, 2006

WTC conspiracy.. not again!?

In this video, besides from screaming people, you can clearly see molten metal flowing from the outside of the WTC tower just prior to collapse. The burning jet fuel and office materials which are thought to have reached a maximum of 650 °C can melt aluminumm, but that doesn't glow, so it must be iron or steel . So there must be a hotter source. 650 °C is enough to weaken steel by about 50%, but the design of the building more than allowed for this. Also pools of molten metal were found in the rubble that were molten and hot for many days after the collapse. This gives credence to the theory that thermite or more likely thermate was used to bring the buildings down. Thermite and thermate are mixtures that when ignited burn at temperatures of up to 2500°C and can easily melt through steel. Sulpher was found on a few salvaged bits of WTC steel, the rest was shipped of to be recycled. Thermate contains sulpher and was hot enough to fuse it with the steel. An in-depth paper, which describes the point in much more detail, on the collapse, by Steven E. Jones a professor of physics at Brigham Young University who conducts research in nuclear fusion and solar energy, and 9/11 researcher. And some more on the thermite hypothesis. Now there just needs to be a way for a group of people to carry something like two thousand kilograms of explosives and thermate into the buildings and it could be done. That's 10 trips with 10 people, each carrying 20kg. 'Maintenace' workers could have done this in the weeks before 9/11 I don't know, these last couple of years I've really been swayed between believing nothing besides nasty hijackers happened, or hijackers plus knowledge of the government, or hijackers and knowledge and cooperation by the government which would be totally horrendous. Whatever be the case, I think much more research should be put into this. Also in this long (2 hour) video presentation by Steven E. Jones he also goes into (@1:08:50 time) Bin Laden saying that he did not do it. And that in the tape where Bin Laden says he has done it, the man saying it clearly is a doppelganger. As blog readers don't want to read into the paper I just wanted to add something that looks like visible evidence. Click the picture for full size. See the diagonally 'cut' beam in the background? That clearly looks like it has been cut and not teared. Also you can see dark colored stuff on it, which looks like solidified molten metal. This lends support to the thermite theory.

2 comments:

cybrbeast said...

Nobody has anything to say or add to this? Do you find it plausible, can you get counter arguments?

annom said...

I would say that in such a large fire it could be possible to get higher local temperatures than 650C.

I can make iron glow(not melt) with a simple gas burner(don't know how hot that gets). Metals will glow when hot enough. At 900C it is a dark red glow and it becomes more like the color in the video at 1200-1500C ( Temperature Colors )

Aluminium does melt at 660C and when that liquid aluminium gets heated to 1000-1500C it would glow the way we saw.

I find it hard to imagine that in such a large fire with all kinds of materials, it is impossible to reach temperatures of 1200C. Could an oven with good air supply and fuel be formed in such a large mess? I don't know.

I'm also not 100% sure that it really is molten metal what we see. What if the "glow" are just flames on the surface of a large plastic "ball". Or any other material that does burn on the surface and looks like a liquid from far away.

I don't know and I'm not an expert. Just throwing up some ideas that pop into my mind.

I still far from convinced of a conspiracy. There are some weird things though and I find it hard to get a good overview of different sides of the story and how many people support the theories.

For every argument for a conspiracy, you can find a counterargument somewhere on the world wide web.

Complicated stuff...